If you're looking to make up a religion, this is the worst possible way to start. It is positively contradicted regarding further revelation by Isaiah 48:6b-7: I proclaim to you new things from this time, even hidden things which Stack Exchange network consists of 176 Q&A communities including Stack Overflow, the largest, most trusted online community for developers to learn, share their knowledge, and build their careers. He expands on this pretty clearly directly to the Sanhedrin, when He states that He will be seated at the Right Hand of Power in Heaven. Sinai, or on route to Canaan proves, just by itself, that the entity performing those signs or wonders was indeed God. shown, that you might know that the LORD, He is God; there is no other It is positively contradicted in practice regarding commandments by Ezekiel chapters 40-48. 3.1. In that they never made that claim, and we instead only hear a deafening silence from them in this matter, then a very likely scenario is that they did indeed examine those public records and found precisely the same evidence as that found by Matthew and Luke. (R) Do not spare them or shield them. The Hebrew of the Masoretic Text translates as "Like a lion are my hands and my feet", which makes very little sense. Three determined atheists, yet all three became not just believers, but defenders of that belief. (In fact, in Exodus 7:11 even Pharoah's sorcerers were capable of performing supernatural feats.). In that work the dates for every new moon were recorded using Julian Calendar dating. It is not correct to claim that "In and of itself, the resurrection proves nothing. 14 “You are sons of the Lordyour God;do not cut yourselves or make a bald spot on your head[a]on behalf of the dead,2 for you are a holy people belonging to the Lordyour God. Jesus could have merely said he would rise spiritually and created a false religion easily enough. He told them what had happened to him and why he had been in the fish... because of his rebellion against his God. Initially, Pharoah has his magicians doing the same tricks, implying Moses is no better than the other sorcerers. [1] https://www.academia.edu/39982502/Proposal_of_a_conceptual_framework_for_the_epistemic_path_to_faith_and_application_to_the_path_from_Judaism_to_Christianity. For assuredly Moses was a true prophet of God. The Scriptures first say about other gods, Is there a God besides Me? Why? 6:4-9) — which devout Jews still recite daily every morning and night (in addition to Dt. Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong, because he poured out his soul unto death, and he was numbered with the transgressors, and he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors. No one today, in fact no one since the destruction of the Jewish public records in Jerusalem by the Romans (in either the first of second century), can actually prove they are a descendant of David. If we believe the Gospels to be roughly historically accurate (i.e. besides Him. (AD 33 is one of the few possible years of the crucifixion because in that year Passover fell on a Friday.). What evidence do you have that he is presenting a different god to the God of the Tanakh? The possible instances of the "sign or wonder" supporting the claims of the false prophet predicted in Deut 13:1-5 do not include miracles which only God can perform, but are limited to the works that an evil angel can perform by its own natural power when allowed by God. See my answer to another question for a list of key Bible verses that Christians deem to point to Jesus. 11 Then all Israel will hear and be afraid,(V) and no one among you will do such an evil thing again. Your charge that Jesus taught His disciples to worship another god is not true because Jesus worshiped the same God that Abraham and Moses worshiped. There has only ever been the One Being of God. The reason for the “hanging on a pole” is because the person committed a sin for which he is given the death penalty. In order to demonstrate that the resurrection must fulfil the prophesies of it in the Old Testament. There is a very simple answer to your question. Was it not You who dried up the sea, (John 12:49). Galatians 3:13 is taken from Deuteronomy 21:22-23. Well, if Jesus spoke for demons, or was a demon, then He would have been a false prophet. The implication of this is that the sacrificial system with its bulls and goats, etc, will no longer be needed. The Apostle Paul further states that this gospel is concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; and declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead (Romans 1:3,4). The Hebrew term refers to the irrevocable giving over of things or persons to the, Dt 18:22; 1Sa 2:34; 10:9; 2Ki 19:29; 20:9; Isa 7:11, S Ge 22:1; 1Ki 13:18; 22:22-23; Jer 29:31; 43:2; Eze 13:9; 1Co 11:19, Dt 17:7, 12; 19:19; 24:7; Jdg 20:13; S 1Co 5:13, ver 2, 6; Jdg 19:22; 20:13; 1Sa 2:12; 10:27; 11:12; 25:17; 1Ki 21:10, Isa 24:6; 34:5; 43:28; 47:6; La 2:6; Da 9:11; Zec 8:13; Mal 4:6, Jos 8:28; Isa 7:16; 17:1; 24:10; 25:2; 27:10; 32:14, 19; 37:26; Jer 49:2; Mic 1:6, NIV, Beautiful Word Bible Journal, Romans, Comfort Print, NIV, Cultural Backgrounds Study Bible, Red Letter Edition: Bringing to Life the Ancient World of Scripture, NIV, Beautiful Word Bible Journal, Acts, Comfort Print, NIV, Cultural Backgrounds Study Bible, Personal Size, Red Letter Edition: Bringing to Life the Ancient World of Scripture, NIV, Chronological Study Bible: Holy Bible, New International Version. Thus, while God may allow demons to perform signs or wonder to lead idolaters to worship one or more of the gods of a polytheistic pantheon, because none of those gods is conceived as the one and only absolute Subsistent Being that created and sustains in existence everything outside Himself, it is against God's philosophically knowable goodness towards humans that He may allow a demon to perform signs or wonders to lead people into believing that the demon itself is the one and only God. iniquities. And can you give a supernatural explanation which does not require Jesus to be at least from God? Thus, we can agree with Paul in confidence, who says of the Resurrection, "His Son, who was born of a descendant of David according to the flesh, who was declared the Son of God with power by the resurrection from the dead, according to the Spirit of holiness, Jesus Christ our Lord." Rather, the resurrection shows the VICTORY of Jesus over the power of death due to His obedience to God the Father. RELP: The set of criteria that a person holds to be appropriate for determining whether a purported medium of divine Revelation is actually so. When Adam and Eve sinned God promised them a Saviour, Genesis 3:15, who would bruise Satan's head but be bruised in the heel himself in the process. And David prophesied that the Messiah would be resurrected physically soon after death: Therefore my heart is glad, and my glory rejoices, my flesh also shall rest in hope. @GratefuDisciple This is the one answer here that seems to take me at my points, I would upvote it if I could. Then the Lord will turn from his fierce anger,(AE) will show you mercy,(AF) and will have compassion(AG) on you. "If there appears among you a prophet or a dream-diviner and he gives you a sign or a portent, saying, “Let us follow and worship another god”—whom you have not known—even if the sign or portent that he named to you comes true, do not heed the words of that prophet or that dream-diviner. (Is all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God. Calling a generalized version of P1 "Revelation Completeness", RC, and a generalized version of P2 "Full Divine Power at the service of lie", FDPsl, there are four possible combinations of the affirmation or negation of each postulate: (¬RC, ¬FDPsl): The I-CRELP of Biblical Israel, according to Christianity, (RC, ¬FDPsl): The C-CRELP of the Church after the death of the last Apostle, according to Christianity, (¬RC, FDPsl): Not allowed because of undecidability, (RC, FDPsl): The possible J-CRELP studied in this section. No, absolutely not! But why is he not the God of the Tanakh? Now, you may say, what about demons? He fulfils Isaiah 49:6 because he is worshipped throughout the world as the Messiah. But as Isaiah 8:20 shows what is needed is to show that the resurrection, and the NT and the OT all agree together, that the NT does not contradict the OT. You must bring independent proof from outside the New Testament so as no to be guilty of circular logic. The Jews wanted to stone him to death for the blasphemy of claiming divinity - that God was his father and that before Abraham turned up, Jesus (as the eternal and uncreated Word of God) was the great I AM - a title ascribed to God alone. Demonstration that the Biblical Israelite faith does not imply J-CRELP.P1 but actually implies that it is false. In the same way this is talking about people either of the Israel/Jewish nation or living as a part of their culture, who have made a covenant to follow God. It neither is in the Torah (or TaNaKH) nor can be inferred from it. He then went to Ninevah to tell them that in 40 days they were going to be destroyed. What did He predict, among other things? Definition of Revelatory Epistemological Position (RELP). How do you know this? All of these questions require further commentary, and I plan to write a … 9:17 "Moses wouldn't really smash those tablets if God had written on them!!" But, the main charge of the question in this discussion is that Jesus introduced another god to the Jews of his time! 10 Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away(U) from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. The real problem is some people prefer the comfort of the approval of friends and family rather than seeking of the truth, rather seeing the than the praise of God. Because it would be against divine wisdom and goodness for God to give us certainty that whatever P said and did was true and good while not giving us certainty about what P actually said and did! As far as the Christian is concerned nothing Jesus taught contradicts the Tanakh, when the Tanakh is rightly understood: if you think it does then please tell us how. The difference is that after Jesus was bodily resurrected, he did not die again. 4 It is the Lord your God you must follow,(I) and him you must revere. When Abraham was saved on several occasions by similar great works of God, Abraham learnt two important lessons, lessons that Israelites who experienced similar great rescues did not learn. Moses said God made the world in 6 days and rested the 7th day: they believe in the Big Bang. Likewise, Jesus was the Prophet spoken of by Moses in Deuteronomy 18: 15 The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from Jesus is not God, even if you use resurrection as a criteria, because miracles are not the criteria, as pointed out by Deuteronomy 13. To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers. message. When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken. The first discourse (1-4:43) acts as a kind of introduction to the book. (S) Your hand(T) must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. Jesus rose from the dead. But as the plagues go on, you'll note they stopped being able to copy God, until finally, we have the death of the firstborn, a devastating blow nobody could match. You are now resorting to the OT to demonstrate Jesus's authenticity. The grammatical function of "Nor" without "Neither" or "Not" in poetry. 17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is Just as it was through suffering, the loss of a rib, that Adam gained a bride, so through suffering the Messiah would gain his Bride.. all those who would believe on him. The stone that the builders rejected has now become the cornerstone. Wonder how any mere mortal could have done that. You see similar parallels in the great works God empowered Moses and Christ with. He is despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief. It is most illogical per Deut 4:34-35, which states that the signs and wonders performed by YHWH to free Israel from Egypt are the evidence on the basis of which Israel may know that YHWH is God, the only God: Or has a god tried to go to take for himself a nation from within If one negates Torah (or TaNaKH) completeness, then the Nicene doctrine of a consubstantial Trinity and the Chalcedonian doctrine of the Incarnation of a divine Person are compatible with the Torah (or TaNaKH) and therefore can be the actual case. And 3rd April 458 B.C. Could he have chosen another kind of death? the son of God? 18:22 and proving His statement in John 12:49. not Legend), then we are left with the famous trilemma when considering Jesus's claim of who He is. The same with Jesus of Nazareth: even though he might have seemed to be a nobody and a stranger to the Jews, yet it is through his resurrection, and the Gospel message that he gives, that deliverance comes to those who believe in him. It is most illogical to think that YHWH will provide MORE apologetic evidence for Israel to believe in a false god than the apologetic evidence He provided for Israel to believe in Himself! What are the predominant Christian views on whether Jesus had to specifically die by crucifixion? And after some time dislikes her, and is desirous of parting with her, and therefore takes the following wicked method to obtain it. But Jesus asks us all even now "What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and yet to lose his own soul?" Deuteronomy 13 insists that those who advocate the worship of other deities must be killed, and that a town that worships other deities must be entirely exterminated, including its livestock. The most prominent action that set him apart from all other prophets was rising from the dead. Deuteronomy 10:17 Does God play favorites or not? On further reflection, I believe the root cause between the diverging interpretations of Deut 13:1-5 is simply a different hermeneutics when reading the Scriptures, especially because in Judaism there is Oral Torah and other authorities which significantly changes one's reading of the same passage. Contra gnosticism, the Subsistent Being is absolutely simple and immutable, not a pleroma within which changes go on and from which parts get out and then back in. SermonAudio.com - Deuteronomy 13 Sermons. It is intrinsically null regarding further revelation of truths or addition/deletion/change of commandments by God Himself. (Genesis 50:20,21). Incest was a capital offense in the Old Testament (Leviticus 18:6-17; 20:11-12,14). However, if Jesus was in fact raised from the dead, then His claim(s) must have been true. The resurrection is a massive stumbling block. It seems that this question was posed to William Lane Craig over here: Part of Deut 13:2 warns if the prophet says let's go after other gods. The resurrection (along with the miracles which Jesus performed prior to his death) was simply to AUTHENTICATE that Jesus was who He said He was. The problem with the resurrection is its premise is absurd. All three witnesses affirmed Jesus' identity at the time he was baptized, in Matthew 3: 13 Then Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to be baptized by John. Of course, the resurrection is no proof to those who do not want to believe: nothing is. The Paperback Bible presents the Bible by the Book and is designed to be portable, readable, and truly personal with ample margins for notations. So, while the Resurrection was not exclusively meant as a "proof", there can be many facts inferred from it. This can be found in Mark 14:61-62, Luke 22:67-70, John 8:48-59 (specifically verse 58), etc etc. This is my point, the Gospel is not "just" that Jesus is the Son of God: it is that he is the promised Messiah of the Old Testament; and the resurrection, like many other events in the ministry of Jesus, is prophesied in the OT and fulfilled in the ministry of Jesus. This document has been generated from XSL (Extensible Stylesheet Language) source with RenderX XEP Formatter, version 3.7.3 Client Academic. I don't think you're really addressing my question. 1.2. By clicking “Post Your Answer”, you agree to our terms of service, privacy policy and cookie policy. [In addition, the law of God required that anyone wanting to serve as a priest in the Temple had to be able to prove their descent to be of the tribe of Levi, and if anyone could not prove it they were not permitted to serve in the Temple (Ezra 2:59-63). That prophet or dreamer tried to turn(M) you from the way the Lord your God commanded you to follow. Now therefore, fear ye not: I will nourish you and your little ones. And everyone who brings it up willfully ignores the fact that this verse has been inoperative for Jews and Christians since forever. 16. Nonetheless, this doesn't prove that he is that very same god. Therefore Jesus is the Messiah. Jesus claimed to be the Messiah. He would live forever. Bible / Our Library / Bible Commentaries / Matthew Henry Commentary on the Whole Bible (Complete) / Deuteronomy / Deuteronomy 13; Share Tweet. And Eve was made because it was not good that man should be alone (Gen 2:18) because man was made in the image of God (Gen 1:26), from which we conclude that there is more than one person in the Godhead. Ver. All we like sheep have gone astray; We have turned, every one, to his Yet Jesus made the bold claim he would bodily rise from the dead. The enticement here is supposed to come from a brother or child, who are near by nature; from a wife or friend, who are near by choice, and are to us as our souls. Follow none but the LORD your God, and revere none but Him; observe His commandments alone, and heed only His orders; worship none but Him, and hold fast to Him. 16 As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. They asked him how he smelt so bad of fish, and maybe why he looked so strange, having been in a fish's belly for three days. John the Baptist served as the witness of the Word. The following are some of the important prophesies from the O.T. Clearly, that "the LORD has bared his holy arm" means that He has performed a work that only He can perform. Worshiping Other Gods # In Hebrew texts 13:1-18 is numbered 13:2-19. This covenant is the covenant of grace, peace and everlasting life in which God will remember our sins no more if we turn back to God as beggars pleading mercy and peace on account of the sacrifice a fully sufficient Messiah, (who is "Jesus Christ, the Son of David, the Son of Abraham" (Matthew 1:1)). Therefore it must be created ex nihilo directly by God, Who alone has the power to create ex nihilo. As she suffered having requested that the Jews of Shushan neither eat nor drink for three days, night or day and promising I also and my maidens will fast likewise (Esther 4:16) and afterwards went into the secret place to intercede for her people, so Christ also suffered and was in the grave three days and three nights before his ascension to intercede in Heaven for his people. The fact that God creates ex nihilo the spiritual soul of each human person when that person is conceived implies that God cares about human beings, so that He will not allow that they be deceived in a wholly undetectable and unsurmountable way. Thus, since the Nicene doctrine of a consubstantial Trinity and the Chalcedonian doctrine of the Incarnation are compatible with classical theism and with the Torah or TaNaKH, once J-CRELP.P1 is abandoned, ascertaining the historical truth of the resurrection of Jesus is all that a Biblical Israelite needs to ascertain the truth of Christianity. The criteria is not that their predictions should come true, but that they should do not lead worshipers astray. In the last fourteen chapters of Genesis, chapters 37 to 50, we have the life and ministry of Joseph. The Messiah [Christ] is a divine Being or Son of God, by extension God, in human form and nature. In the time of Jesus, the Jews had no authority to render a death penalty, let alone carry it out. 52:10). 15 Jesus replied, “Let it be so now; it is proper for us to do this to Of course Christians also worship Jesus as Lord, because Christians believe that the essence of Jesus is the same as the essence of God the Father. It only takes a minute to sign up. What's the difference between a 51 seat majority and a 50 seat + VP "majority"? 6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices(O) you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods”(P) (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield(Q) to them or listen to them. Indeed there is no other Rock; I know not one.” (Isaiah 44:8), Behold, you are [nothing], and your work amounts to nothing. And just as Esther was related both the to the Jews and the King (by marriage), so Christ is related both to us, being made a man, and to the Father, being of the same nature, God made flesh. So when He was raised from the dead, His disciples remembered that He said this; and they believed the Scripture and the word which Jesus had spoken. Note the similarity of the words spoken by Moses and those spoken by God from heaven at the baptism: Listen to him! Why do wet plates stick together with a relatively high force? John 15:13Greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends. Deuteronomy 18 says that if his sign fails he is, reasonablefaith.org/writings/question-answer/…, drive.google.com/file/d/1PVBV2_SRBis0BTe0riF6xHqTICRJ41NQ/…, https://www.academia.edu/39982502/Proposal_of_a_conceptual_framework_for_the_epistemic_path_to_faith_and_application_to_the_path_from_Judaism_to_Christianity, from your pastor, priest, or other trustworthy counselor. teaching, God/YHWH is One I.e. It does indeed. If Jesus’ resurrection took place in isolation of all the prior witnesses God was providing then we have a reason to scratch our heads and wonder what it all means and why anyone should believe what Jesus claimed. As you know the Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 CE. As a Jew, I have no way of knowing #2 without granting the NT authority. Does Deuteronomy 22:13-21 say that a marriage is only considered valid if the woman is a virgin, and if she is not she should be executed? Yes, this philosophic demonstration was not needed in the Gospels, but as Christianity became more high profile among the philosophically sophisticated Gentiles, the church fathers and the monks in late antique & medieval era responded to the. He could spot a false prophet and a true prophet, and he certified that Jesus was a true prophet. The beginning of the Father's witness in Matthew is at the baptism, and the conclusion is the resurrection. (J) Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast(K) to him. mouth. LORD your God did for you in Egypt before your eyes? I hope his answer helps! Jesus was condemned to death. (Ezra 7:9) is recorded in their book as 8th April 458 B.C. Lazarus). Thus, the Resurrection proves that Jesus was a prophet of God, because it allowed everyone to see that what He predicted came true, and thus His claim of speaking for God was true. You must bring independent proof from outside the New Testament so as no to be guilty of circular logic." It also cannot proceed from the parents' spiritual souls or emerge from matter. The last verse is striking. [Gen.15:1; 2Samuel.7:4; Is.38:4; Jer.2:1 = Jn.1:1,14; Rev.19:13] fulfilled the miracle and promise of God about the beginning of the death of ‘the Death’ in His death and resurrection. When you receive these experiences, you are supposed to have a stronger faith, a different spirit. Now, you may ask, how do we know that He did not speak for a foreign god, or that He was a foreign god? iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His David was promised one of his descendants would sit on his throne forever: And when thy days be fulfilled, and you shall sleep with your fathers, I will set up your seed after you, which shall proceed out of your bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. Jesus resurrection is prophesied in the OT to the exact day and maybe the exact hour!! What happened to Jesus' physical body after his death and resurrection? The reasoning goes like this: Ability for abstract thought implies that each human being has a spiritual soul. When you make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days [ie he shall be resurrected after his suffering], and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand. Many deep theological issues related to the comments in the aforesaid question have been addressed adequately by several answers prior to my response. (Is 53:1). 118:23 says. If you don't scrutinize it too hard, or just ignore the evidence, you can just give it a cursory dismissal, but people who have made a deliberate study of it continually come to the conclusion it's true. I could expound here, but let's (for argument's sake) say it's true. For you will not leave my soul in Sheol, neither will you let your Holy One see corruption [bodily decay]. The debate of Jesus as the Messiah, the presence of Jesus and the Trinity in the OT are all worthy and important conversations. ARELP.C4. Recalling that the OT expression for the divine power is "God's arm", the prophet starts by asking the arm of the LORD to wake up: Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD; awake as in the days ", but "How do you make a demonstrably false premise into a successful religion?" The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him. By His knowledge @GratefulDisciple, thank you! Friend, I'm so glad you didn't write any of the Gospels! Let me start with the resurrection and work back to why Jesus was the Son of God. to A.D. 75" which has become the standard work on chronology for the period. In all seriousness, the resurrection is the lynch pin of Christianity. If quantum computing always return random measurement (or uncertain measurement), why do we still need it? Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise Him; He has put Him to grief. Adultery and masturbation were regarded as worse than modern crimes such as molestation or rape — arguably bec… Deuteronomy 10:7-8 Does this contradict Numbers about the separation of the Levites? It is not correct to say he told them to repent. : By "God" we refer to the one absolutely infinite (in perfection, not in spatial extension), absolutely simple, eternal and immutable Subsistent Being, Who created from nothing and sustains in existence everything that exists outside Himself. To subscribe to this RSS feed, copy and paste this URL into your RSS reader. In the book of Samuel we have another picture of the resurrection. There is no ambiguity here. This must be the starting point, and it is from this starting point that one then determines whether the super-human entity which interacted with the Israelites was God (always meant in the above sense from here onward) or a lesser, created entity. Moses said God made all the animals after their kinds... but they believe in evolution. 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