From December of 1943 to March of 1945, 1139 such "hybrids" were produced by Krupp-Gruson at Magdeburg (chassis number 89324 to 89382 and 100001 to unknown). Not only was its main gun powerful enough to knock out the new Soviet tanks, but the Panzer III chassis on which it was based was highly mobile and reliable, and the increased armor plating combined with its low silhouette made it a difficult vehicle to destroy. 1 Overview 2 In Flames of War 2.1 Unit organization 2.2 Model kits 3 Model assembly 4 Painting 5 Combat efficiency 6 Image gallery The StuG III G assault gun was by far the most widely produced and used in the StuG series. The Bovington Tank Museum in Dorset has one painted in Finnish markings. There is some controversy about Guderian and how truthful his memoirs are. .....started in the early fall of 1944. by Alkie » Sun Oct 03, 2004 11:14 pm, Post Also remember that the sight is automatically set to 400 yards or so, so you might want to adjust it. The Wikipedia article says they didn't work well as StuG substitutes but doesn't say why. The Imperial War Museum's Duxford site also has an ex-Finland StuG but its markings are more ambiguous. Message forum of the Feldgrau.com research community, Post In December of 1943, Stug IV was introduced, it was essentially a slightly modified Stug III superstructure (such as extended driver's compartment) mounted on Panzer IV chassis. He doesnt fit its role: It was operated by 4 men crew. Following the defeat of the German Empire in World War I, military commanders from the Reichswehr began to consider how mobile armored artillery units could provide support to advancing infantry units. While the Nominal: 3.9 s 50% Crew: 4.83 s 75% Crew: 4.22 s 100% Crew: 3.74 s Rammer: 3.37 s ... Low HP for a tier 4 TD Performance. The StuH 42, SdKfz 142/2, or Sturmhaubitze 42 was a self-propelled gun that was used by Germany during World War II. Using the tanks high speed and maneuverability, you should generally stay away from enemies and damage them from afar with your weak armor and good … It was at that time that Stug IV was either put into production or production was accelerated as a stopgap measure to supply assault guns to the various fronts. Some source apply designation Sd.Kfz.163 to Stug IV. I don't know if the plants making StuG bodies could have easily been converted to JgPz IV body production or if JgPz IV production could have completely replaced StuG production. StuG III Ausf.G from the Abt. Stug is faster but not as flexible in close corners. A Finnish StuG (posing as a German one) appears in the movie The Eagle Has Landed, and ex-Finnish StuGs have since turned up in British war museums. G was mounted on a Panzer IV chassis 7. He doesnt fit its role: feels like a medium tank: - high mibilty - moderate AI (3 MGs) … The main German anti-tank gun, the 37 mm Pak 36, also proved unable to penetrate the armor of these Soviet designs. The lack of an internal light machine gun in early models left the StuG vulnerable to close-range infantry attack. StuG 3 v t34/76. While the Hetzer has a top speed of 42km/h forwards and 12km/h in reverse to the StuG's 40km/h and 11km/h, the StuG, despite being heavier, has a much more powerful engine (320hp vs 220hp). [2] Its mission was to destroy prepared defensive works, pill boxes, machine gun emplacements and tanks. Between 1942 … This vehicle first saw combat in France in 1940. Still, the StuG III was an effective armored fighting vehicle long after the Panzer III had been retired as a main battle tank. 167), was a German assault gun variant of the Panzer IV used in the latter part of the Second World War. German StuG in Finland. Using a powerful modified 75mm assault gun, it is known as a very effective tank killer. German StuG in Finland. The StuH 42 is essentially a StuG III Gwith a 10,5 cm howitzer. 3,614 8. borys68. Adolf in late 1943 requests that Stug IV's should be issued to panzer units 'if possible', and they were. It was a little higher with the JadgPanther. by kramer » Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:17 pm, Post IV H and J. From December of 1943 to March of 1945, 1139 such "hybrids" were produced by Krupp-Gruson at Magdeburg (chassis number 89324 to 89382 and 100001 to unknown). Up-armored StuG III Ausf.G from an unidentified unit at the third battle of Kharkov, February 1943. Stug shoots almost double as fast, has the same range and its penetration is enough to penetrate almost every tank in front armor (except IS2 and ISU). This became terribly obvious when the 6th Panzer Division with about 150 long-barrel 50MM Panzer III's (and a small number of effective long barrel 75MM Pz IV's) led the relief effort to break the Stalingrad ring, with the help of the seriously understrength 11th panzer division, made up of smaller numbers of primarily of Panzer III's. The StuG III Ausf. And having 2 tanks is much better than 1. Meanwhile, heavier armed tank destroyers were developed, such as the Jagdpanzer IV and the Jagdpanther, which combined the low silhouette of the StuG with the heavier armament of the Panther and Tiger II tanks, respectively. Kramer, as far as the silhouette, you are right, it was very low with the Stug III, Stug IV (Guderian's Duck) and the Hertzer. by kramer » Sat Sep 25, 2004 6:49 am, Post Its maximum speed was 25 mph, and the power reserve was about 96 miles. This gives it a higher specific power (hp/tonne), allowing it to accelerate faster. The StuG III Ausf.B looks and plays a lot like its tier 5 older brother, the StuG III Ausf.G. [3] The main armament, which had a limited lateral traverse, was mounted directly in a casemate-style hull. did start going into PD's and PGD's and the practice spread as time went on. It's armor is worse, but it's cannon is almost the same. By the middle of the Second World War it had developed into a potent anti-tank weapon, and the StuG III Ausf.G was produced in larger numbers than any single version of any other Ger… The crew consisted of 4 people. It was introduced in Update 1.49 "Weapons of Victory". Initially, they were intended as armored self-propelled guns providing close fire support to the infantry to destroy bunkers, pillboxes and other entrenched positions. The new vehicle proved to be an effective tank destroyer. These new vehicles, designated StuH 42 (Sturmhaubitze 42, Sd.Kfz 142/2), were designed to provide infantry support with the increased number of StuG III Ausf. It was developed by a … Unfortunately I don't have specific M4 vs StuG III statistics. The Stug IV is effective both against infantry and enemy tanks. The Blitzkrieg Doctrinemust be active before it can be called into the field. A captured Syrian Panzer IV and StuG III are on display at the Armor Museum in Israel. I had thought the primary reason for the StuG was its simpler to build[no turret] and had a lower profile[smaller target to hit]. In December of 1943, Stug IV was introduced, it was essentially a slightly modified Stug III superstructure (such as extended driver's compartment) mounted on Panzer IV chassis. The high velocity guns were not that important in the initial role. Sturmgeschütz (abbreviated into StuG) meaning "assault gun" was a series of armored vehicles used by both the German Wehrmacht and the Waffen-SS armored formations during the Second World War that primarily consisted of the StuG III and StuG IV.The more common of the two, the StuG III, was built on the chassis of the proven Panzer III.The StuG III was initially designated "StuG… 14K 3,302 5. It was produced, in several modifications, on the basis of the Pz. The purpose of this addition was so that the Wehrmacht would have an effective combat support unit that would work well against infantry. The StuG III's 75 mm KwK 40 L/48 gun could penetrate the M4A1's front armor at 1000 meters or more (except the gun mantlet). The StuG III was initially designated "StuG" but with the creation of the StuG IV (based on the Panzer IV chassis) it was re-designated the "StuG III" to distinguish the two. 5. Adolf said 'They're all against you so I can only go with them' Democracy in action. 14K 3,302 5. The Krupp plant, which did not produce Panzer IIIs, used the Panzer IV chassis with a modified StuG III superstructure, with a box compartment for the driver added. Having canceled the production of the Pz. A more powerful gun, the 75 mm Pak 40, was being developed, but it didn't fit in the turret of the Panzer III, Germany's primary medium tank at the time. 1 Overview 2 Weapons 2.1 75mm StuK 40 L/48 2.2 7.92 mm Maschinengewehr 42 3 Veterancy 4 Tactics 5 Weaknesses 6 Variants 7 Quotes 8 Gallery The Stug IV, an abbreviation of Sturmgeschütz IV, is an assault gun, a type of self-propelled artillery. I used to own one, and from my experience it's better than the Panzer 3, but not in the same league as the Panther. When they came up against very large numbers of T-34's in long range engagements near the Aksai River, they suffered very very high casualties. StuGs did survive on the Eastern front. 3,614 8. This created the lowest possible profile in order to reduce the vehicle's height, making the StuG more difficult to hit and easier to protect in hull defilade. The Hetzer was produced from April 1944 to May 1945, with a total of 2,584 vehicles manufactured. by Alkie » Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:27 pm, Post The StuG was more successful in defensive roles, such as ambush, rather than as an offensive vehicle. Post by Redbaron1908 » 23 Jul 2003, 18:05 Sturmgeschütz (abbreviated into StuG) meaning "assault gun" was a series of armored vehicles used by both the German Wehrmacht and the Waffen-SS armored formations during the Second World War that primarily consisted of the StuG III and StuG IV. This special assault gun is doctrine-specific and can only be called into the field using a special ability, not produced. This restarted the Sturmgeschütz IV project, which had earlier been considered and rejected. The total weight of the StuH was aroun… [5] They were used in this fashion as German losses of all types of armored vehicles now exceeded production. Hello Axis-Guys I'm curious about the version of the Stug III in the following photographs: It's an accident from 17. Panzer(Stug)Abteilungen of 4 and 17 SSPGD's, 5SSPD later (2 coys. I can't think of any Stug Abteilungen that had them. G. On December 16–17, 1943, Hitler was shown the StuG IV, and approved it. Yet roads,railways,trucks, parts factories, petrol stations were damaged/destroyed. A number of captured StuGs were refurbished in the Soviet Union and given to Syria, along with some Panzer IVs, where they were used briefly against Israel. As a result, production was significantly reduced. When it first appeared the Sturmgeschütz, or as it is more commonly known the StuG III, was a unique weapon – a powerful artillery gun mounted on a fully armoured, tracked, low slung chassis based on the Panzer III medium tank, and designed to provide close support for the German infantry. The quote below is from achtungpanzer.com. III tank until 1945. In 1942, a variant of the StuG Ausf. First, assault guns came into their own for a number of reasons. You have to get the equipment to the Front.. Kramer, Guderian tried to get hold of Stug production for PD's and PGD's in April 1943 on being appointed Generalinspekteur der Panzertruppen. In November 1943, British aircraft bombed Alkett, a large manufacturer of StuG IIIs. In 1942 and 1943 the StuG was one of the most effective tracked fighting vehicles fielded by the belligerents, in terms of enemy vehicles destroyed. Stug IV (Sd.Kfz.167) was armed with 75mm StuK 40 L/48 gun mounted in cast "saukopf" mantlet. German weapons, vehicles and equipment 1919-1945. The chassis, for starters. against gen. lee tanks and standard sherman its about same. In 1942, a variant of the StuG Ausf. F was designed with a 10.5 cm (4.1 in) true howitzer instead of the 7.5 cm StuK 40 L/43 cannon. borys68. Sturmgeschütz (abbreviated into StuG) meaning "assault gun" was a series of armored vehicles used by both the German Wehrmacht and the Waffen-SS armored formations during the Second World War that primarily consisted of the StuG III and StuG IV. Elevation of the gun? Regarding the Panzer 4. They did have the 75mm gun[later versions]. I never build Panther. And it was mechanically reliable. 4 years ago. 1500 of this model was produced, and it was called the Stug III/IV. I never build Panther. It was identical in role and concept to the highly successful StuG III assault gun variant of the Panzer III. quote;The reason for this was numbers. The StuG IV was a way to keep the StuG in production after the main assembly plant for it was bombed. To make up for the large deficit in StuG III production, StuG IV production received full support. Not much. F/8 and Ausf. They were very similar in that they were low to the ground and had armoured casement instead of a turret. A light, low-profile tank destroyer designed according to General Heinz Guderian's specifications. The StuG III was based on a Panzer III chassis (hence the III), and it didn’t have a rotating turret. Yes, the Stug IV was built as a result of the bombing of the Alkett factory. Only about 1,300 StuH 42s were produced and were based on the StuG III F/8 and G models. And on top of that, you can build 2 StuG for 1 Panther at almost the same cost. No provision for indirect firing? yes, quite right but the hellcat has poor armour so its a given anyway. DB was to provide the hull and chassis and Krupp the detailed equipment, including the main gun, the 7.5 cm Geschütz L/24 für Sturmartillerie (Selbstf… ....(page 96) in 1943 the Alkett factory, which produced Stug III's, was carpet bombed by the USAF. The StuG was used primarily within the Sturmartillerie, a branch of the artillery in the Wehrmacht. After the specifications arrived at the OKH, an order was passed to Daimler-Benz AG and Krupp for delivering a prototype by June 15, 1936. AP (solid) projectile of English 57mm tank gun -from 600m. against easy 8s i tend to destroy them in two to three hits in the stug, with 3-4 for the panzer IV with apcr. Based on these experiences, the report made by the 11th Panzer division on January 22, 1943 regarding the Panzer III was: ↳   Operational Map Project & Archival Research, ↳   Unit Histories, Feldpost Numbers & Orders of Battle, ↳   Commanders, Personalities & Award Holders, ↳   Foreign Volunteers, Collaboration and Axis Allies, ↳   General WWII German Military Discussion. Concentrated bombing of Synthetic Fuel factories... An Agitator is pretty much the same as a troublemaker. This basically ended any realistic opportunity of freeing the 6th Army. Featuring specially commissioned artwork and an array of archive photographs, this is the absorbing story of the parts played by Soviet and Finnish armour in the epic battles in Finland during June and July … This made the StuG III battalion the most modern and powerful element of the Finnish armoured division, and it saw very extensive combat in the June-July summer battles. As a result, production was significantly reduced. 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